Two Roses In Vase Semi Stand Development

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  1. Ian-Barber

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    Chamonix 045N-2 and 150mm lens
    FomaPan 100 5x4 Film
    Kodak HC-110 Developer

    Total exposure time including reciprocity was 46 seconds at f/11

    Dilution of the developer was 1:160 which gave me 6ml of developer. Total development time was 50 minutes.
    30 seconds continuos slow agitation followed by 1 gentle agitation at 5 minutes and then a further 3 slow agitations at 25 minutes.
     
  2. Keith Haithwaite

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    That's an interesting development scenario Ian, I'm not sure I could sit around for 50 minutes without getting distracted.
     
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    Keith...

    There's no 'need' to sit and wait... doing 'nothing'. That is time that would (could?) be well. or better spent... perhaps trimming your toe-nails :cool:

    Ken
     
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    I would if these old bones would let me bend far enough Ken, but there again, the noise of the chainsaw might disturb the neighbours. ;)
     
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    Maybe a comment on Ian's picture would be more helpful than a discussion about Keith's toenail's :)
     
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    Would you like to start us off Martin? ;)
     
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    OK... I'll go first... (On my Mac) Composition is more than acceptable. Ian has (obviously) taken a 'slightly higher' (vertical rise of the film plane) position in order to maintain the original 'shape' of the vase while drawing one's to eye to the flower head.

    Successful images produced with long exposure times such that which Ian used for this image are extremely difficult to predict with 100% accuracy. My 'personal' opinion would be to (first) increase the contrast.. accompanied with (perhaps) a reduction in the print exposure enough to 'brighten-up' the flower head.. there's a lot of 'fine detail' in the petals that do not seem to 'stand out'.... I feel that the flower head has to be the main focal-point. This increase in contrast should also 'brighten-up' the vase... and yet still maintain both the 'highlight' of the light-source that promotes its 'roundness'... as well as the fine detail of the 'crackle'.

    Ken
     
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    What I am seeing is contrast that matches the image, could be viewing screens, but It looks fine to me, the pottery has rendered beautifully, cannot tell on my phone about the whites but knowing Ian they will be correct. I am not to keen on the set up but understandable with limited space etc, what does Ian think about the negative quality as only he knows how far he had to edit, would be nice to know if the semi stand helped in sharpness and tonal range, over to you Ian:)
     
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    The negative did not appear to scan very well at all. The information in the flowers were there but I had to fight to extract in in Photoshop.

    I did 2 exposures one with the leaves on the table so I could distinguish between the 2. Both scanned identical.

    Straight Scan
    Screen Shot 2016-10-26 at 18.51.09.jpg

    Silverfast Histogram
    Screen Shot 2016-10-26 at 18.51.26.jpg
     
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    Do you think a negative with more contrast would have made it harder to scan especially the highlights, stand or semi stand is a method to help in that area but sounds like it was hard to get the desired tones in the rose out
     
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    I am learning that this film (fomapan) builds up contrast very very quickly. I wish I had the gear to plot a graph to see just how the curve looks with my developer and work-flow
     

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