List of lens for 4x5 and 8x10 inch

HenriLon

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Dear community,

Starting my research on 4x5 and 8x10 lenses which in an ideal world could work for both but in reality it is more complicated than what I thought.

My projects are mainly interior building, portraits and landscapes. The last one is mainly covered by the field 4x5inch I have.
I've selected few focal which might work :
- 150mm Nikkor SW
- 360mm
- 450 or 600mm

I've been using this website to preselect the lenses however the prices on eBay are not my best friend at this stage.
I've a Nikkor 150mm f/5.6 W and Fuji Fujinon 250mm W f/6.3

From your current and past experiences, do you have any advice or tips to share I could leverage?

Have a good indoor time.
Henri
 

Ian Grant

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Henri, it'll depend on what 5x4 camera you are using.

I shoot 5x4, 7x5 and 10x8, I've made adapter boards to use my 5x4 lenses which are on Wista/Linhof lens boards on my 7x5 Kodak Specialist 2 and 10x8 Agfa Ansco Commercial View,

In practice only four of my lenses can be used on all three formats, the shortest is a Wollensak 159mm f9 EWA, followed by a 240mm f5.6 Nikkor W, and a 300mm f9 Nikkor M, the foourth lens is a coated 12" (300mmm) f6.8 Dagor - Goerz AM Opt. My main issue is my Wista 45DX has insufficient bellows extension to shoot with a 300m except at Infinity so useless for portraits.

Sharing lenses between 5x4 and 7x5 is easier, my Kodak specialist 2 isn't compact enough to use a 90mm, but I have a Seneca City View that is and it's a lighter camera as well. But I canshare a 120mm f6.8 Angulon or 120mm f6.8 Dagor (Goerz,Berlin), 150mm Sironar N, 165.210mm Symmar S, 210mm f6.3 Osaka Commercial. 210mm f4.5 CZJ Tessar, 210mm f6.8 Geronar, the 240mm Nikkor W,a 360mm Tele Xenar and of course the 300mm Nikon M or 12" Dagor.

For the 10x8 I do have a 165mm f8 Super Angulon but size of the rear cells means it won't fit smaller cameras.

Ian
 

David M

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Ian's advice is very good, of course.
First look at the weight columns, fourth and fifth from the right.
Some 10x8 lenses are monstrous relative to a 5x4 camera and a lens that's heavier than the camera will be difficult to manage. The 150mm SW Nikkor has more coverage than any 5x4 camera could possibly use. Your 150mm W is more useful and faster. The 360mm W Nikkor is huge too. The 450 and 600 are favourites with some well-known blogging landscape photographers. They may all need a correspondingly monstrous wallet.
 

Ian Grant

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As you say David weight and size is an issue, the 240mm f5.6 Nikkor W is not a small lens, my 12" f6.8 Dagor is quite small in comparison, it helps that its Compound #3 shutter is also smaller than a Copal #3.

My question about the 150mm Nikkor SW would be will it actually fit most 5x4 cameras, the answer is a definite NO !!! The rear cell diameter is 10cm so there's no chance of using for 5x4 except possibly maybe a camera like a 5x4 Agfa Ansco whicj has a a large lens board.

Your 250mm Fujinon W should cover 10x8, like my 240mm Nikkor W with only slight room for movements. I'd think in terms of a set of lenses for the 5x4 and separate lenses for a 10x8 with the exception of the Fujinon 250mm.

Ian
 

HenriLon

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All your comments are very reasonable. I have a Toyo 4x5 field and view plus the 8X10 view.
I'll keep my 150mm for the 4x5, easy to carry in a bag.


150, 159 or 165mm a very much a good wide lens. :)

Thanks
 

Ian Grant

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I've been on the look out for a 165mm f6.8 Angulon these are very small and light compared to the huge 165mm f8 Super Angulon and more modern than my uncoated 159mm Wollensak EWA. I use a 90mm f6.8 Angulon as part of my light weight 5x4 kit and there's no chance of carrying the 165mm SA with my 10x8 due to the weight and size. I'm also very happy with my 120mm f6.8 Angulon.

Ian
 

David M

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In extremis, it's possible to remove the rear cell, mount the rest of the lens on the camera and then re-attach the rear cell through the back. A risky business to do this in the field and the large diameter will probably restrict any movements. It might be a solution for some specialist situation in a studio. If you need 5x4 negatives from a 10x8 lens, a simpler solution would be to use a reducing back on a 10x8 camera, but I don't think this is what you're after.
 

Ian Grant

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Funny you mention reducing backs, I bought one on Ebay on Sunday, it's for a 10x8 camera but I don't know if it's Half Plate or 7x5 until it arrives, as it's an international back it takes modern DDS so either will fit (as will 13x18cm) it's just the glass size that differs. It was only £10 but the springs are missing however I've had new ones made in the past.

A reducing back is one way of using very long lenses, at the moment my longest are a 20" f8 Rapid Rectilinear normally sat on a 12"x10" camera and a heavy 25" f9 Bausch & Lomb Anastigmat very expensive $280 when new in the 1920's, optically it's a lovely lens. Used on a 10x8 with 37" bellows extension and a 5x4 back it's quite practical. I have a Gitzo front mounting shutter or various front mounting TP shutters that fit bot lenses.

Ian
 
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