Trees

John Esco

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I simply love trees. I won't miss any opportunity to take a "tree portrait" when an interesting character catches my eye...
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Fujinon 150mm; f22; 1/8sec.; Fomapan 100
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Fujinon 210mm; f22; 2sec; Fomapan 400
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Fujinon 210mm; f22; 1sec.; Fomapan 400
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Fujinon 150mm; f22; 2sec.; Fomapan 400
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Alan Clark

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Hi John. I too take lots of photographs of trees. I really like the third one. The first two look a bit contrasty with no shadow detail on my screen. What film developer are you using, by the way?

Alan
 

Alan9940

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Yep, lover of trees here, too! Though, being here on a LF forum this one is kind of cheating...taken with an old Zeiss Super Ikonta III on Shanghai GP-3 during one of my many hikes in the desert.

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John Esco

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Hi John. I too take lots of photographs of trees. I really like the third one. The first two look a bit contrasty with no shadow detail on my screen. What film developer are you using, by the way?

Alan
Thanks for appreciation, Alan. :) I'm using Rodinal on 1+50.
 

John Esco

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Hi John. I too take lots of photographs of trees. I really like the third one. The first two look a bit contrasty with no shadow detail on my screen. What film developer are you using, by the way?

Alan
I love plants world in general but most the trees and I have myself lots of shots with trees (most of them on medium format). Their shapes and textures fascinates me.
 

Ian Grant

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John, look at the tonality in Alan's image it's possible to get similar from Fomapan 100 & 200, and probably Fomapan 400 with more effort.

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This is a Tmax 100 or Agfa AP100 in Rodinal 3 to 100. With Foma films you need to use half the box speed as the starting point and cut the development time to compensate then they behave like other films.

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This is 120 Fomapan 200 at 100 EI in Pyrocat HD, but in Rodinal 1 to 50 it'd be quite similar. Foma films are great but need some taming to get the best results.

Ian
 

Alan9940

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I've never shot Foma 200 or 400, but I shoot quite a bit of Foma 100 in 5x4 and 10x8 and using an EI, as suggested by Ian, and with reduced development this film provides beautiful, smooth tonality.
 

John Esco

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John, look at the tonality in Alan's image it's possible to get similar from Fomapan 100 & 200, and probably Fomapan 400 with more effort.

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This is a Tmax 100 or Agfa AP100 in Rodinal 3 to 100. With Foma films you need to use half the box speed as the starting point and cut the development time to compensate then they behave like other films.

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This is 120 Fomapan 200 at 100 EI in Pyrocat HD, but in Rodinal 1 to 50 it'd be quite similar. Foma films are great but need some taming to get the best results.

Ian
Thanks for your time and support. I will give it a try as you suggested as soon as possible. Still have some Foma 100. should I shot at 50EI?
 

Ian Grant

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I've never shot Foma 200 or 400, but I shoot quite a bit of Foma 100 in 5x4 and 10x8 and using an EI, as suggested by Ian, and with reduced development this film provides beautiful, smooth tonality.

I find Fomapan 200 as good as the 100 film, I've just bought 40 rolls of it earlier this year and have some boxes of 5x4 and 7x5 as well although packaged as EDU for Freestyle.

The 200 is supposed to be a more modern emulsion than the 100, in practice I find the grain and sharpness very similar any other slight differences aren't noticeable in prints.

Ian
 

Alan Clark

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I once did a straight comparison between Foma 100 and FP4. This was in 120 format. Blue sky was slightly darker in Foma 100, as though I had used a yellow filter. I haven't noticed this yellow filter effect in Foma 200.

Alan
 

Ian Grant

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Foma's data-sheets show virtually identical spectral response for Fomapan 100 & 200 and Granularity is listed as 13.5 for the 100 and 14 for the 200 so nota difference we'd notice, resolving power is identical 110 lines per mm for both. They measure RMS Granularity with Microphen at 20ºC. Fomapan 200 - RMS = 14.0 (Microphen at 20ºC, developed to y= 0.6,(measured at D = 1.0).

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I'm not sure why temperature is an issue, I process Fomapan and other films at 27ºC while in Turkey because that's the water and ambient temperature and there's no increase in grain, with one proviso all steps must be at the same temperature as variations can cause surface defects (Kodak's term also called micro or incipient reticulation) which increase graininess).

Ian
 

Alan9940

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Ian,

You may have convinced me to give Foma 200 a try. Is Pyrocat-HD your favorite developer for this film?
 

Alan Clark

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Alan, I have used quite a lot of 5x4 Foma200, and had excellent results with ID11 at a dilution of 1+2. I expect Pyrocat HD would be just about as good (having used Pyrocat a lot in the past - but not with Foma200.)
I also found that Foma 200 worked very well in Rodinal. I no longer use Rodinal but a friend gave me some and was pleasantly surprised when I tried it. Not quite as sharp as ID11 1+2 but the mid-tones held up, which they don't usually with Rodinal. So I would say Rodinal suits Foma 200.

Alan
 

Alan9940

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Thanks, Alan. Since you recommend ID11, I'll try D76 since I mix this myself. Next time I'm ordering film, I'll grab some Foma 200 and give it a go.
 

James T

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In addition to ID-11 & Rodinal, I often use Ilfotec-HC in 1:31 dilution for any of the Fomapan films.
 
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