Wet Scanning Fluid Alternative

Ian

Yes, I cut the mask out to the size of my negatives. I be,I eve it was used to prevent light diffusion. Cant find a source for more blank sheets.
 
I stopped using Kami mounting fluid after it caused fogging on the acrylic drums of my drum scanner. I now use Lumina scanning fluid but as this doesn't seem to be available anymore, I will be using Gamsol when it runs out (most people have said there is very little difference if any).

As for wet mounting and getting the right focs, a real cheap way of doing this is to get a small piece of glass, slightly smaller than the scan bed. Mount your film on to the glass using a very small amount of fluid and tape the edges (you should be able to do this without dripping everywhere). Mount the film with the curve such that the edges of the film sit proud and then you tape it down, you create a bit of pressure.

Then turn the glass upside down and balance it on a penny at each corner. The focus should be fairly good with a single penny at each corner.

If the focus isn't great, try with two pennies on each corner or potentially try a combination of coins. The hot spot for focus is usually over half a mm wide and hence you'll get close enough with some combination of pennies.

Because there is nothing between the lens and your film other than the scanner glass and the mylar, you don't need anti-newton glass.

If you're getting more than a couple of drops of oil on the scanner bed, you're probably using too much. By the time you've mounted the film on the glass and wiped it down, it should be drip free.
 
Doug said:
Ian

Yes, I cut the mask out to the size of my negatives. I be,I eve it was used to prevent light diffusion. Cant find a source for more blank sheets.
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When wet scanning is there a requirement to wash the film to remove the residue of whichever scanning fluid is used? It's not something I've seen mentioned anywhere.
 
CJV8 said:
When wet scanning is there a requirement to wash the film to remove the residue of whichever scanning fluid is used? It's not something I've seen mentioned anywhere.
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I never wash the film, the fluid should just evaporate
 
CJV8 said:
When wet scanning is there a requirement to wash the film to remove the residue of whichever scanning fluid is used? It's not something I've seen mentioned anywhere.
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The fluids used will leave a deposit or mark but they don't damage the film and you'll be cleaning them if you want to use them again anyway so no point cleaning them twice.
 
I have a V750 Pro and it is difficult to get 120 strips totally flat in the supplied holders. If I purchased the V850 120 holder with anti newton glass insert, would I see a notable improvement in sharpness across the frame. It’s very easy to spend lots of money for no appreciable gain in this hobby!
 
super_claret said:
I have a V750 Pro and it is difficult to get 120 strips totally flat in the supplied holders. If I purchased the V850 120 holder with anti newton glass insert, would I see a notable improvement in sharpness across the frame. It’s very easy to spend lots of money for no appreciable gain in this hobby!
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Lay the negatives emulsion side down on the scanner glass down the middle, lay some framers glass on top and use the 10x8 setting in the scanner software so it switches the internal lens of the V750 and you won't see any difference with 120 film
 
Ian-Barber said:
Lay the negatives emulsion side down on the scanner glass down the middle, lay some framers glass on top and use the 10x8 setting in the scanner software so it switches the internal lens of the V750 and you won't see any difference with 120 film
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Thanks Ian. Where do I change the setting in Silverfast. Not at home to check at the mo.
 
super_claret said:
Don’t think that one has the glass insert.
I can buy one with a glass insert in the UK for £50 but think I’ll try Ian’s suggestion first. Just need to be sure I’m going to see an improvement before spending the money.
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They list it as a V850 component. Why don't you call them just to be sure. What I don;t know if the V850 holders will fit your V700 scanner.

One other thing. The V850 holder only holds 2 6x7's unlike my V600 holder that holds three image strips. So you have to cut down three image strips to two, a poor design from Epson with the V850 120 holders. Also, the film gets pressed down into the holder a special way. Check the V850 manual for how to do that.
Alan
 
Alan Klein said:
They list it as a V850 component. Why don't you call them just to be sure. What I don;t know if the V850 holders will fit your V700 scanner.

One other thing. The V850 holder only holds 2 6x7's unlike my V600 holder that holds three image strips. So you have to cut down three image strips to two, a poor design from Epson with the V850 120 holders. Also, the film gets pressed down into the holder a special way. Check the V850 manual for how to do that.
Alan
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Thanks Alan. According to some YouTube videos, the V850 holders work with V750 scanner. There are 2 types of 120 holder, one without glass and the other with ANR glass. My V750 120 holder accommodates 2 strips but when scanning my 6x6 negs, cut into 3, the 3rd neg falls short of the end of the mount, meaning it’s not clamped by the holder. I’d rather scan my negs one by one and have them totally flat by using the glass insert but just wanted to get feedback to make sure there are no issues before spending the money.
 
super_claret said:
Thanks Alan. According to some YouTube videos, the V850 holders work with V750 scanner. There are 2 types of 120 holder, one without glass and the other with ANR glass. My V750 120 holder accommodates 2 strips but when scanning my 6x6 negs, cut into 3, the 3rd neg falls short of the end of the mount, meaning it’s not clamped by the holder. I’d rather scan my negs one by one and have them totally flat by using the glass insert but just wanted to get feedback to make sure there are no issues before spending the money.
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The way your deescribe the 120 holder for the V700 is how the V850 holder works - the third picture hangs off the right. Clampoing the holder seems to squeeze the third picture potentially damaging it. So that's why I cut it from the strip and just use either the two picture strip or the one picture strip. Of course that screws up reinserting the strips back into the plastic holder sheets for storage. Like I said, a poor design from Epson. The V600 holders were better holding the three picture strips, although no glass.
 
super_claret said:
I have a V750 Pro and it is difficult to get 120 strips totally flat in the supplied holders. If I purchased the V850 120 holder with anti newton glass insert, would I see a notable improvement in sharpness across the frame. It’s very easy to spend lots of money for no appreciable gain in this hobby!
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I know this is an old post but if you buy an Epson V850 pro you can get a free fluid mount from Epson.
Also, you can get a free upgrade to Silverfast 9 and free iT8 software and transparencies.
 
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